What changes should the national security community be focused on?  What do whole-of-nation and whole-of-government approaches to change look like?   And how can national security objectives integrate with these efforts to drive change?    As part of the annual Women in National Security event, the ANU National Security College had the pleasure of hosting over 250 attendees for a live podcast recording at the National Gallery of Australia. In this episode Kathryn McMullan, Kim Brennan and Nu Nu Win, join Olivia Shen to  discuss the changes that will shape Australia’s national security community. Questions from the audience had the panel addressing issues of cultural representation, intersectionality and social cohesion in national security.    Kathryn McMullan is Director of the Australian Geospatial-Intelligence Organisation.  Kimberly Brennan is a Partner at Ernst & Young.   Nu Nu Win is a Sir Roland Wilson PhD Scholar, on leave from the Treasury.  Olivia Shen is a Director of Program and Design at the ANU National Security College.     Show notes:   ANU National Security College academic programs: find out more Executive and professional development courses at NSC: find out more  Modelling Australian Public Service careers: find out more   We’d love to hear from you! Send in your questions, comments, and suggestions to [email protected]. You can tweet us @NSC_ANU and be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss out on future episodes. The National Security Podcast is available on Acast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcasts.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.