In this rich conversation with Professors Davide Rodogno and Carloyn Biltoft, we delve into a world of meaning making and examine the depth and breadth that history offers for policymaking. Davide Rodogno is professor of International History and Politics and the Head of the Interdisciplinary Master Programme at the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies in Geneva. He specializes in researching international organizations and philanthropic foundations, and transnational networks and movements since the 19th century. Carolyn Biltoft is associate professor of international history and politics at the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies. Her works fuses the tools of world history, intellectual history, cultural studies and critical theory. She is interested broadly in the dynamic interactions between globalising structures and infrastructures and diverse beliefs, emotions, concepts and human life-worlds.  Resources Geneva Graduate Institute: https://www.graduateinstitute.ch/international-history-politics Carolyn Biltoft’s book suggestions: Hartman, Saidiya. (2019). Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments: Intimate Histories of Social Upheaval. W. W. Norton & Company (February 19, 2019). Johnson, Denis. (2012) Train Dreams: A Novella. Picador Smail, Daniel Lord. (2007) On Deep History and the Brain. University of California Press; First Edition Davide Rodogno’s book suggestions: García Márquez, Gabriel (1967) One Hundred Years of Solitude / Cien años de soledad. García Márquez, Gabriel. (1985). Love in the Time of Cholera. García Márquez, Gabriel. (1992) Strange Pilgrims. Twelve Short Stories. (Bon Voyage Mr. President, is set in Geneva)   Where to listen to this episode  Apple podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-next-page/id1469021154 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/10fp8ROoVdve0el88KyFLy YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h32UaG8AgZc Content    Guests: Davide Rodogno and Carolyn Biltoft Host and Producer: Amy Smith Editing and social media designs: Mengna Chen   Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva