Today's Five-Star Guest is Jess Birken.  Jess Birken is the former CEO & Managing Partner at Urban Birken PLLC, a boutique firm that specialized in serving the nonprofit community. She has worked with nonprofit organizations for most of her career. Before becoming a private practice attorney, Jess spent four years inside a national nonprofit organization, Pheasants Forever. Jess worked her way through law school and had the beginnings of a promising career in criminal law after graduation. However, she quickly realized that going to court is depressing! In court, the toothpaste is out of the tube and you’re just trying to clean up the mess. Her colleagues reassured her she’d become callous and get used to the grim reality. But Jess thought that sounded like a terrible personal outcome and decided she needed to change course. As a result, she went back to grad school and earned a Masters in Nonprofit Management. Jess rejoined the nonprofit sector through her work with Pheasants Forever where her role was a marriage of attorney work and federal grant management and administration. Since that time, Jess has run her own firms and is now the owner of Birken Law Office--a firm designed to help nonprofits. Learn More About Jess:  https://birkenlaw.com/who-is-jess-birken/ Listen to Jess's Podcast:  https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy/ Get on our waiting list for our new nonprofit & fundraising community filled with on-demand courses and live webinars that are exclusive to members! Learn all about what's in store to support you and your leadership team at www.DoGoodYOUniversity.com! Support This Podcast! Make a quick and easy donation here: https://www.patreon.com/dogoodbetter Special THANK YOU to our sponsors: Donor Dock - The best CRM system for your small to medium sized nonprofit, hands down! Visit www.DonorDock.com and use the Promo Code DOGOODBETTER for a FREE month! iTunes: https://apple.co/3a3Xenf Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2PlqRXs YouTube: https://bit.ly/3kaWYan Tunein: http://tun.in/pjIVt Stitcher: https://bit.ly/3i8jfDR Follow On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoodBetterPodcast/ Follow On Twitter: @consulting_do  #fundraising #fundraiser #charity #nonprofit #donate #dogood #dogoodBETTER #fargo #fundraisingdad About Host Patrick Kirby: Email: [email protected]: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fundraisingdad/Want more great advice? Buy Patrick's book! Now also available as an e-book! Fundraise Awesomer! A Practical Guide to Staying Sane While Doing Good Available through Amazon Here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1072070359