In this episode of the OG of OT podcast, a young woman “Clara” (not her real name) is reunited with this dude “Harvey” (also not his real name). She was duped into taking part in a supply chain attack. He kinda remembers the equipment refresh and rumors of infected firmware. Decades later, they...

Stories about nation-state adversaries "camping out" in the energy grid for as long as I can remember. What the deal? Is this truth? Fiction? Somewhere in between? In this episode, the OGs talk to a bunch of people who claim to know.