In this episode, our host Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Christian Georgi and Daniel Hutzel about the SAP Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP), a Software Development Kit (SDK) to build applications in the enterprise world. They speak about how CAP is gradually being open-sourced so that it can evolve with the help of its community. This will allow, for instance, the support of additional databases, consumption protocols, and UI frameworks. We also learn how the CAP team has engaged with the community so far and how this motivated them to open source it.