In this episode Karsten Hohage talks with our guests Vasu Chandrasekhara and Tim Usner about project Gardener. Today, Kubernetes is the natural choice for running software in the cloud. More and more developers and corporations are in the process of containerizing their applications, and many of them are adopting Kubernetes for automated deployments of their cloud native workloads. There are many open source tools which help creating and updating single Kubernetes clusters. However, the more clusters you need and the more infrastructures need to be supported, the harder it becomes to operate, monitor, manage, and keep all of them up-to-date. And that is exactly what project Gardener focuses on. Vasu and Tim explain in more detail what Gardener does, why open source is the natural approach to such a project, and how it makes the lives of cloud developers, architects, and operators easier.