In this episode, Lara brings a book chapter to the discussion which asks if we need to think differently about professional identity formation (PIF). The hosts discuss the strengths and weaknesses of current ways of thinking about PIF and they review the concept of subjectification and how this concept might help the field move to new, and exciting new ways of thinking about being a clinician. Episode host: Lara Varpio Book chapter: Verwer, S., & van Braak, M. (2022). Subjectification in Health Professions Education: Why We Should Look Beyond the Idea of Professional Identity Formation. In M. E. L. Brown, M. Veen, & G. M. Finn (Eds.), Applied Philosophy for Health Professions Education: A Journey Towards Mutual Understanding (pp. 23–37). Springer Nature. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-981-19 Episode webpage Hosts: Lara Varpio, Jason Frank, Jonathan Sherbino, Linda Snell Technical Producer: Samuel Lundberg Executive Producer: Teresa Sörö Production of Unit for teaching and learning at Karolinska Institutet