Welcome to the pivot pod, where together we’ll figure out where to next for small business. Today it's how to tighten up your business to survive border closures. Even if we’re all agreed keeping the borders closed is important for keeping us safe and healthy, there is an undeniable cost that comes with that. New Zealand is a country that until now relied heavily on tourism and exports, both of which are impacted by border restrictions not just here but throughout the world. So how can we work with what needs to happen, while reducing some of those downsides, and lining ourselves up for the recovery? For the latest episode I was joined by Andrew Jamieson, from PWC. If you have a question about this podcast, or question you'd like answered in the next one, come and talk to me about it. I'm on Facebook here https://www.facebook.com/FrancesCookJournalist/ Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/francescooknz/ and Twitter here https://twitter.com/FrancesCook