When all seemed lost, how do people begin to heal from trauma? Are there times when support services like social workers and case managers have gotten in the way of healing? On this episode we talk with Maggie and Cindi, who remind us that the journey is not always a straight line.  Maggie Center has been the Resiliency Care Manager with Greater Cincinnati Behavioral Health Services for the past two years of the Resilience Project. Her professional background is  rooted in offering trauma responsive care, from her Bachelor’s of Science degrees in Human Development and Family Studies/Women’s Studies from Colorado State University to community based healing opportunities with Denver Colorado’s sexual assault prevention and care center, RAAP, and most recently with the Resilience Project, supporting underserved teens to  young adults with co-occurring diagnoses and complex trauma histories. With two of her great passions being creating art and the practice of yoga, Maggie’s work has impacted the Resilience Project by using movement and pictures to grow participant’s abilities to respond to what has happened to them without the pressure that can arise in traditional therapeutic settings. Cindi Crew is the Director of Integrated Counseling at Greater Cincinnati Behavioral Health Services.  She earned her Bachelor's degree in Psychology from the Northern Kentucky University and her Master's Degree in Social Work from the University of Kentucky.