In seasons 9 episode 12, hosts Gary Martin and Jason Buff interview professional photographer, Kiati. They discuss boudoir photography, dance, and relationships. Kiati talks about his experience as a boudoir photographer, and how his work is often misunderstood as pornography by some people in the community. He emphasizes the importance of educating people about the nature of his work, and how it differs from pornographic photography. The conversation then shifts to dance photography, and Kiati shares his techniques for capturing movement and freezing motion using a higher shutter speed and flash. The conversation then takes a turn towards personal relationships, and Gary shares his experience of recently ending a long-term relationship. Jason offers his perspective on relationships, and emphasizes the importance of communication and openness in building healthy and long-lasting relationships. The conversation then ends on a light note, with Jason giving some simple advice on dental hygiene, and Kiati promoting his photography tutorials available on the Pro EDU website.