What happens when engineers transform into security champions? Is this beneficial, and what are the implications of this transformation? Izar reveals his transition from a naysayer to a supporter of security champions, and Chris and Matt seek to understand his current position. They explore the position of Security Champion and discuss the components of a good security champion program. Matt defines security champions as developers with influence who can be a bridge between security and engineering. They receive advanced training and bring resources to their team to lead them to effective threat modeling. While security champion programs may have potential pitfalls, such as overloading team members, good security champion programs should benefit the individual and the business. Chris emphasizes the importance of providing opportunities for growth, learning, and networking to make the program appealing to potential champions. With the potential issue of champions leaving an organization, they highlight the need for companies to keep up with salary expectations as champions grow in their roles. They also touch on the challenge of preventing security champions from being disliked by their team once they transition from being developers. There are several resources for those interested in building a Champions program, including Dustin Lehr's Security Champion Success Guide and Chris Romeo's Security Champion Framework available on GitHub. The episode concludes with a call for listener feedback and input, emphasizing the hosts' desire for an interactive and engaging conversation with their audience. FOLLOW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA: ➜Twitter: @SecTablePodcast ➜LinkedIn: The Security Table Podcast ➜YouTube: The Security Table YouTube Channel Thanks for Listening!