Today Chris is talking with Clay Drinko, Ph.D. Clay is an author and educator. He writes for Psychology Today about the intersection between improv comedy, science, and everyday life. He's also the author of the first academic book connecting improv and cognitive science, Theatrical Improvisation, Consciousness, and Cognition. His most recent book, Play Your Way Sane, was published by Simon & Schuster last year and applies his improv research to everyday life. [June 14, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/  Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/  Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/  Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb  CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/  innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/  02:27 – Clay Drinko intro  03:27 – How does someone in Improv decide to study Cognitive Science?  05:46 – Losing anxiousness through performance  07:34 – The importance of a shift in focus  08:52 – Active Listening  11:41 – Yes, and...  14:01 – Don't try to be funny  15:54 – Establishing "who" and "where" you are  18:57 – How do you apply Cognitive Science to the idea of improv?  21:56 – Leaving your "baggage" at the door  25:13 – Managing the negative  26:40 – What are the biggest life skills you've learned from improv?  28:13 – Reflective questioning - Empathy or Selfishness?  31:03 – You are not special  34:29 – Do you want my help?  37:37 – Find Clay Drinko online  Website link: www.playyourwaysane.com  Instagram: www.instagram.com/playyourwaysane  38:13 – Book Recommendations:  Americanah - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie  Educated - Tara Westover  Unmasking the Social Engineer - Christopher J. Hadnagy Nightbitch - Rachel Yoder  Clay’s Book – Play Your Way Sane - Clay Drinko  40:34 – Who would you consider your biggest mentors?  Advisor and Professor – Shirley Huston-Findley   43:14 – Guest Wrap Up  44:04 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org