Ahmad is a first-generation Lebanese-American thru-hiker and mountaineer who speaks about his experience of realizing while buying an ice-axe and hearing an Egyptian accent that he has never spoken to anyone in Arabic about the outdoors. This prompted him to hike the Lebanese Mountain Trail, which goes through parts of the country he hiked as a child with his father. He talks about Arab-American representation, what he loves about being outside, and what he learned on the trail. This episode our debrief is with writer, producer, professor and Executive PRoducer of the hit Netflix series, Ramy, Maytha Alhassen, PhD. We talk about living on the margins, the historic and ongoing misrepresentations of Arabs in media, her take on what it means to witness and much more.