Chris is joined by Ringer-Verse host Charles Holmes to talk about the new animated series ‘X-Men ’97’ and how it’s the latest installment in what has become the genre of “nostalgia” television (1:00). Then, they talk about the first few episodes of the ‘Jerrod Carmichael Reality Show,’ how much “reality” there is in this reality TV show (37:14), and where this show fits in with the evolving idea of what a standup comic does (54:50). Host: Chris Ryan Guest: Charles Holmes Producer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices