Dr. Jill McGovern has been involved with AGI since the idea for it came about in 1981. As part of our AGI at Forty series, Dr. McGovern reflects on how an idea for a think tank that focused on two German states from an American perspective came to fruition. She discusses how AGI’s unique and forward-thinking perspective in the Cold War set the tone for its research agenda through the next forty years. Host Jeff Rathke, President, AGI Guests Eric Langenbacher, Senior Fellow and Director of AGI’s Society, Culture & Politics Program Dr. Jill McGovern, AGI Trustee This podcast is part of the Society, Culture & Politics Program’s AGI 40th anniversary series.