I throughly enjoyed my conversation with Stacey! Books mentioned in our interview: 24 Assets by Daniel Priestley  Show Notes: Just Listen, that's how you learn. Stacey started with books and YouTube. Always Learn: Then create what you learn. Too much consumption is not good. Active Listening:  Listening not just because you want to talk. Create a REALISTIC Customer Avatar -The More detailed, the better, but avoid analysis paralysis.