Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week I'm honored to bring you another interview on the subject of religious trauma. My guest today is Dr. Mark G. Karris, a Marriage and Family Therapist in California who is the author of four books, including most recently, "The Diabolical Trinity: Healing Religious Trauma from a Wrathful God, Tormenting Hell, and a Sinful Self." He describes why he wrote this book, and how religious beliefs with these three components can be traumatic. This conversation is not about bashing religion, though. Mark explains how these beliefs are different from the healthy aspects of religion and the ways it can be beneficial. Tune in for this thought provoking conversation! Learn more about Mark's work and find his book at: https://markgregorykarris.com/ Check out Mark's YouTube Channel at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgcz2Pq4FMpItOWs3wylTCg We are accepting new clients in my therapy practice (for those located in Maryland). Learn more via our website: https://bahealing.com  Find a trauma therapist near you via https://traumatherapistnetwork.com ! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available.  Dr. Janina Fisher has a new course coming up through the Academy of Therapy Wisdom. This time she's focusing on addiction and trauma. Learn more and register for a free webinar here! My friend (and prior podcast guest) Deirdre Fay, MSW, has a new course on one of the most challenging aspects of healing after trauma: shame. Shame is that deep sense of being broken, unlovable, worthless that "just talking" can't relieve. Learn about Deirdre's new course and register through Academy of Therapy Wisdom here! My friend Dr. Jamie+ Marich's free webinar recording and link to learn about their course are found here: Not Faking: Dispelling the Myths & Misunderstandings Of Dissociation Jamie+ also has a new course on Trauma & the 12 Steps. Click the link to learn more and register! Thank you to TherapyNotes for sponsoring this week's episode! TherapyNotes makes billing, scheduling, notetaking, and telehealth incredibly easy. And now, for all you prescribers out there, TherapyNotes is proudly introducing E-prescribe! Try it today with no strings attached, and see why everyone is switching to TherapyNotes, now featuring E-prescribe! Use promo code "chat" at www.therapynotes.com to receive 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes!! Find my most frequently recommended resources for learning about trauma here - includes recommended books and trainings. Get my free PDF 5 Common Mistakes People Make When Searching For A Trauma Therapist here! Love Therapy Chat? Leave a rating and review, and subscribe where you listen to your podcasts! Thank you! Podcast produced by Pete Bailey - https://petebailey.net/audio  Our Sponsors: * Check out Uncommon Goods and use my code CHAT for a great deal: www.uncommongoods.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy