In this part two of two episodes, Dr. Brett Salkeld visits with Catherine Pakaluk about shifting demographics, falling birthrates, and her new book "Hannah's Children: The Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth"  Show Snippet: "I certainly believe that when we're talking about things that are deeply part of the human condition and the types of things that adults ought to be spending their lives doing; having children pursuing meaningful work, trying to serve each other in the community. I don't think the government and the church are locked in a zero-sum. I think that the government can structure things in a way to make it easier and more favorable for people to do the right thing." Find Catherine's book at Barnes and Noble or your favorite bookseller;  https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/hannahs-children-catherine-pakaluk/1143671820