Hello and welcome to Bringing Design Closer. Our goal is to have conversations that inspire and to help move the dial forward for organisations to become more human-centred in their approach to solving complex business and societal problems. Before we jump in, I have a favour to ask. Ive been creating content for This is HCD for over 5-years or so, all for the love of sharing knowledge to the global design community. One thing you could do is leave a review (preferably a 5-star one!), as it helps us grow our community - every little helps.  Even if you don’t review, you can go one better by telling people you work with about the podcast.  We launched a space on ThisisHCD.com where you can take courses now on visualisation, design research and more. In this episode I speak with Peter Lofgren, Head of Design for Service NSW in Australia. We chat about Design at Scale, what this means, and how Peter has approached his work across several large organisations, Atlassian, ABC, Westpac and now Service NSW.  Let’s jump in... Become a Patron of This is HCD / https://www.thisishcd.com/become-a-patron Sign up to This is HCD Netletter / https://www.thisishcd.com/community/stay-up-to-date-with-this-is-hcd Follow Gerry Scullion on Twitter / https://twitter.com/gerrycircus Follow This is HCD on Twitter / https://twitter.com/thisishcd Connect with Peter Löfgren on LinkedIn / https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterellofgren Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices