My guest this week is Leen Gorissen, founder of the Centre4NI and author of "Building the Future of Innovation on millions of years of Natural Intelligence". Listen to Leen talk about: - What natural intelligence means --- and how it applies to business and government - How termites and whales can help us to respond to climate change - What shifting from a circular economy to a regenerative approach could mean - How nature thrives on chaos -- and how some companies are applying this principle - What we can learn from nature about rest, redundancy and resilience In the episode, the following books are mentioned: - Building the Future of Innovation on millions of years of Natural Intelligence, by Leen Gorissen Key links: Leen Gorissen (LinkedIn) Centre4NI (website) Nature Speaks (poem) Thriving (book) Wayne Visser (website) Wayne Visser (LinkedIn)