My guest week is Jon Khoo, Head of Sustainability (EAAA) at Interface. In this episode, he talks about: Why doing “less bad” is no longer a credible option and what becoming a restorative enterprise means in practice, in terms of ambitious strategy and regenerative designHow Interface is learning to live zero, love carbon, let nature cool and lead the industrial revolution (the four elements of the Climate Takeback mission)Why changing the narrative on sustainability and climate action is critical to inspire and how innovation in nature can help usHow new leadership is about democratisation: connecting to people and empowering them to be part of a meaningful change processWhat we can learn from indigenous communities, especially about perspectives on nature, experiences of resilience and practicing empathyKey links Jon Khoo (LinkedIn) Sustainability at Interface (webpage) Regeneration (poem) Thriving (book) Wayne Visser (website) Wayne Visser (LinkedIn)