My guest this week is Tamara Makoni, Founder and CEO of Kazuri Consulting. In this episode, she discusses how:  Equality and equity are different – and why equity is more important for creating fair outcomesDiscrimination often emerges unconsciously, for example through “micro-aggressions”Diversity and inclusion require investment of time and resources in order to make progressDE&I creates value for organisations and society, but this is not often quantifiedWe need to learn the lessons of the salmon in order to confront social injusticeKey links: Tamara Makoni (LinkedIn) Kazuri Consulting (website) What Works: Gender Equality by Design, by Iris Bohnet (book) The Conversation: How Seeking and Speaking the Truth about Racism Can Radically Transform Individuals and Organizations, by Robert Livingston (book) Thriving, by Wayne Visser (book) This is the Way (poem) Wayne Visser (website) Wayne Visser (LinkedIn)