In episode 2, Dr. Keith Nichols, MD and men's TRT coach, Dave Lee discuss the importance of hormone optimization for men's health. They emphasize the need for a holistic approach to health, including nutrition, exercise, stress reduction, and adequate sleep. They also address the misconception that hormone therapy can solve all health issues, highlighting the importance of addressing other factors such as counseling and lifestyle changes. The conversation focuses on the different populations they treat, with Keith specializing in middle-aged and older men, and Dave focusing on younger men. They discuss the benefits of hormones like DHEA, pregnenolone, and melatonin, and the importance of maintaining optimal levels for overall health and prevention of age-related decline. In this conversation, Keith Nichols and Dave Lee discuss the importance of hormone optimization, specifically focusing on melatonin, pregnenolone, and thyroid hormones. They emphasize the need to prioritize optimal hormone levels rather than just normal levels, as normal ranges are often based on a population of sick individuals. They also address the misconceptions and controversies surrounding hormone therapy, particularly with regards to thyroid treatment.