This week, host Charlotte Alter welcomes renowned sociologist, Pulitzer Prize-winning author, and MacArthur Fellow Matthew Desmond to the show. Desmond shares insights from his latest book, "Poverty, by America," and discusses how his upbringing in Arizona led to a life dedicated to studying economic struggle. The pair explore the complexities and consequences of poverty and uncover its unseen impact on all Americans, while outlining the systemic changes necessary to combat this pervasive issue. Prepare to see poverty in a new light, as Desmond illustrates its intricate web.