In this episode, Richard Kemp speaks to people from both sides of the Universal Basic Income (UBI) debate from a recent issue of the Journal of Poverty and Social Justice. Howard Robert Reed and Matthew Thomas Johnson argue that UBI is affordable and feasible, whereas Donald Hirsch believes the necessary funds for UBI could be used to cut poverty in more targeted ways. They explore the different UBI schemes that have been tested, discuss what an alternative, reformed welfare system may look like, and outline the changes they all agree are needed to improve the lives of people both below, and above, the minimum income standard. Read the full debate: https://bristoluniversitypressdigital.com/view/journals/jpsj/31/1/jpsj.31.issue-1.xml Intro music: Cold by yoitrax | @yoitrax Music promoted by www.free-stock-music.com Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en_US