On this episode of Trapped Under Plastic, Scott and Jon discuss why are the mainstream miniature or skirmish games competitive instead of cooperative, and is there room for growth in the cooperative space? Support the Show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/trappedunderplastic Support the Show with Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/trapped-under-plastic Follow Jon: https://www.youtube.com/ninjon Follow Scott: https://www.youtube.com/miniac Join the FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/395664561386239/ Listen to the audio versions: http://www.trappedunderplastic.com/ On patreon, we offer our patron's the ability to submit topics for us to discuss during a podcast, you get an extended version of the podcast, and you can submit miniatures for us to critique during an episode! Relevant Links New Miniac Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im3I0HVA1vI New Ninjon Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwhnRUsMWGg Jon's Pro Acryl Paint Set: https://monumenthobbies.com/collections/pro-acryl-paints/ninjon GenCon Magic Card Heist: https://spikeybits.com/2023/08/gen-con-300000-magic-card-heist-persons-of-interest-identified.html Warhammer+ Banned in Canada: https://spikeybits.com/2023/08/warhammer-plus-banned-in-canada.html?expand_article=1 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/bill-96-major-provisions-into-effect-1.6861311 https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/industr/modern/myth.htm Creature Caster Going Through the Wildfires: https://spikeybits.com/2023/08/creature-caster-needs-you-stand-with-them-through-the-wildfires.html?expand_article=1 Mantic Announces Advent Calendar: https://www.manticgames.com/barroom-brawl/?mc_cid=6cbb32d130&mc_eid=fb9da5bdf0 Four New Kill Teams: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/17/four-kill-teams-arrive-on-saturday-but-how-do-they-play/ New Warhammer Video Games Shown at Gamescom: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/08/23/gamescom-2023-all-the-hottest-news-for-your-most-anticipated-warhammer-video-games/ 00:00 Start 01:29 Preamble Ramble 43:55 What We Painted 01:07:37 Topic Discussion 01:51:49 News Support the show