The Two Chickpeas host their first live podcast at The Natural History Museum in London Activist, Joshua Virasami and scientist, Ashar Aslam are in conversation with the Chickpeas to talk about the importance of Climate Justice and discussions of our complicated relationships with nature and its disproportionate impact on people of colour. As the conversation delves into the industrial revolution and how this has impacted climate change to the tragedy and devastation of the flooding in Pakistan, we also look to see what humans as a collective can do in order to help raise awareness of the change that will be for the future and generations to come that will too, face hardships due to the climate. This podcast was in line with the first Explorer's Night at The Natural History Museum on Thursday 26th January 2023. Thank you to The Natural History Museum and a special thanks to Nuzhat Tabassum, Khalil Thirlaway and Alison Shean