This week's episode is with an amazing Film & TV Producer, Professor, Cartographer of the Media Universe, and Anna's friend, Evan Shapiro! Evan has had some incredible jobs over the years working for big corporate media companies, producing major comedy series like Portlandia, teaching at NYU, and his latest venture- starting a podcast with his daughter about cancel culture! (Brave, right?! It's so funny.) Evan gives some of the best advice we've had on this podcast. He talks to us about the rise and fall of major media companies, and what he liked and disliked about working for some of these corporations, and how he's able to fuel his creativity into his life now. He tells us stories about running his own business, a creative marketing agency working with Broadway's biggest shows, and developing Portlandia for IFC. Evan and Anna talk about finding your passion and figuring out a way to make money doing it, which is really what a job should be. And also Broadway...they're big theater nerds. You're going to love this episode and feel empowered about work after listening to it. So to take him down a notch (just kidding) go listen to his new podcast, "Cancel Culture" with his daughter and her comedian friends who have to write a joke for Evan about a questionable topic that could definitely get him cancelled! Follow Evan on social media @eshap - and for more wise words, his Substack! Find out more at https://unemployed-with-anna-roisman.pinecast.co