What does it mean to build a personal legacy or brand? For many this is a question that hums constantly in the background of school, work, and life. But for Leonel Urcuyo, now on the brink of stepping down from leading a department, the concept never crossed his mind. In this episode we use one man’s story to explore the question: is there a gap in the way we think about how we are perceived between those just entering adulthood and those of an older generation?