On this epiosde we break down our latest trip and event in St. Louis including the awesome AirBnB we stayed at. Recently BJ got to visit The Hotel Utica in Central New York.This hotel was built in 1912 and has many famous folks go through its doors. It now operated as a Double Tree, but the hotel staff keep the legends and lore alive and well. Showdow figures, cold spots, and more have been seen here. BJ talks about his experience at the hotel, his investigation, and the remote Estes session Metra and BJ tried out during this trip. All of our links: https://linktr.ee/UnrefinedPodcast Matt's AirBnB in St. Louis: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/20285366?source_impression_id=p3_1700430934_hJzx87X9deutWFbH