In this episode, Van shares her family's immigrant story. She also talks about optimism, and how she connects with people of different backgrounds. The conversation also revolves around the model minority myth, invisibility and hypervisibility and its effects on AAPI organizing, especially post the 3.16 Atlanta Spa shooting. Finally, she touches on how we can build genuine empathy with those around us. Van is a UX researcher by trade, but considers herself to be an active and engaged member of the community at large. She strongly believes in and advocates for being kind to others. Van is committed to making a difference in her community, whether it’s through volunteering, organizing events, or just being there for someone in need, and tries to make the time to show up and support those around her. Through her work as a UX researcher and her involvement in the community, Van has learned the importance of empathy, collaboration, and the willingness to listen to different perspectives. By working together, building connections, and bridging these differences, she truly believes we can create a better world for everyone.