I spoke with Jakkie Cilliers and Stellah Kwasi from the African Futures and Innovation (AFI) team at the Institute for Security Studies (ISS) in Pretoria. We discussed their recent report on the impact of COVID-19 in Africa.Dr Jakkie Cilliers is the Chairman of the ISS Board of Trustees and Head of the African Futures and Innovation team in Pretoria. Jakkie co-founded the ISS in 1990 and was the executive director until 2015. He is an Extraordinary Professor in the Centre of Human Rights and the Department of Political Sciences, Faculty Humanities at the University of Pretoria.  His 2017 book on the future of South Africa Fate of the Nation – 3 scenarios for South Africa’s future was on the best seller list for several months. His most recent book (March 2020) is Africa First! Igniting a Growth Revolution.  He has a DLitt et Phil from the University of South Africa.Stellah Kwasi joined ISS in April 2018 as a Researcher in the African Futures and Innovation programme in Pretoria. Before joining the ISS she was a research affiliate at the Fredrick S Pardee Center of International Futures at the Josef Korbel School of International Studies, University of Denver, Colorado. At Pardee, Stellah worked on international non-government organisations' trends and sub-regional data analysis in conjunction with QED/USAID in Uganda. Before that she was an intern at the ISS. Stellah has a Master’s degree in international development from the University of Denver.Further reading:Impact of COVID-19 in Africa: a scenario analysis to 2030 - https://issafrica.org/research/africa-report/impact-of-covid-19-in-africa-a-scenario-analysis-to-2030Watch the associated webinar here - https://issafrica.org/events/updated-forecasts-impact-of-covid-19-in-africaWebinar presentation - https://issafrica.s3.amazonaws.com/site/uploads/2020-07-23-covid-presentation-jakkie-1.pdfJakkie’s book: Africa First! - https://www.jakkiecilliers.org/africa-first?gclid=CjwKCAjwps75BRAcEiwAEiACMVTLhdzpwfeLSbgjBPDPuPQvgyLYiezW9_kRI2Tv0XDw32lzl_aGyBoCSeoQAvD_BwEPardee Center for International Futures - https://pardee.du.edu/