Claudia Goldin is one of the world's leading economists, a Nobel Prize winner, and a time Person of the Year. She joins Josh Gondelman, Roxanne Roberts, and Maeve Higgins to talk 4:30am phone calls, Nobel parties, and yodeling Get access to bonus episodes, sponsor-free listening, and the chance to participate in a quiz with Peter Sagal when you sign up for Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!+ at plus.npr.org/waitwait. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy