Episodes
Tony unpacks the complexities of co-parenting with a narcissistic or emotionally immature individual. Addressing a listener's question, Tony delves into the nature of developing children, ...
Published 01/02/24
“If I’m asking if I’m the narcissist, then Tony says I’m not!” Tony shares that he receives more feedback on this concept than any other from WUTN listeners. But what happens when the narcissist or emotionally immature person in your life gets ahold of this “script?” Does simply repeating this sentence elicit change? Tony details this question and introduces the concept of 'shelf life', a temporary behavioral change in emotionally immature people. We debate the question, 'If you're asking...
Published 12/21/23
Tony and Kate Anthony, divorce coach and author of “The D Word: Making the Ultimate Decision About Your Marriage,” (https://amzn.to/47V1AKe (https://amzn.to/47V1AKe)) unpack the complex dynamics involved with the decision to stay or leave a relationship, typically with an emotionally immature or narcissistic partner. Kate shares her divorce story and explores the importance of establishing personal boundaries and self-care throughout the journey. The conversation discusses the fundamental...
Published 12/13/23
Tony Overbay discusses some individuals' challenges when attempting to issue sincere and effective apologies. He discusses our evolutionary predisposition to spot danger and make comparisons, making happiness and contentment difficult to maintain. Tony explores the concepts of self-compassion, mindful self-reflection, and effective apology skills, which he believes are critical for personal growth and emotional maturity. He helps listeners understand how growing up with emotionally immature...
Published 12/06/23
How does abuse impact an individual's spirituality and relationship with God? And how critical is it for a spiritual leader to be non-judgmental, empathetic, and compassionate when someone comes into their office talking about abuse? These critical questions are at the heart of today’s episode. Tony Overbay, LMFT, engages in an insightful conversation with Ryan Anderson, PhD, LMFT, and author of "The Choice to Leave Abuse (https://amzn.to/3N5pMS2)." This episode explores the complex issue of...
Published 11/29/23
Ever wondered why some highly educated people fall for outlandish conspiracy theories? Dive into the latest episode of 'Waking Narcissism' with host Tony Overbay, a licensed marriage and family therapist, as he tackles this intriguing question. This thought-provoking episode explores the unexpected relationship between education, narcissism, and susceptibility to conspiracy theories, based on insights from Mark Travers, PhD's article 'Educated Narcissists Fall for Conspiracy...
Published 11/21/23
Have you ever felt overwhelmed by intense emotions in a relationship, struggling to understand why your reactions seem out of your control? Especially if you, and most people in your life, view you as kind and caring rather than reactive and angry. Chances are that you’ve experienced the “amygdala hijack,” a survival technique that often seems to come out of nowhere but can be especially harmful in relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature people, as they often are the ones...
Published 11/15/23
In installment 6 of the "Death by a Thousand Cuts" series - "The Camouflaged Wounds - Seeing the Unseen," Tony Overbay, LMFT, addresses the complex issue of covert abuse in relationships, often described metaphorically as 'Death by a Thousand Cuts'. Tony explores how small, often overlooked actions can accumulate significant emotional distress. The episode challenges listeners to recognize the subtle signs of an unhealthy relationship, where one's sense of self is slowly chipped away by a...
Published 11/08/23
Tony talks with Lori Finlay, a nurse practitioner, board-certified health coach, and health expert with a unique background in cardiology and wellness medicine. Lori opens up about her personal struggles with chronic fatigue and premature menopause and how she took control of her health journey through the study of epigenetics. As she weaves her narrative, she touches on her frustrations with inadequate medical treatment and the critical importance of functional medicine. Utilizing the...
Published 11/01/23
Have you ever wondered how your perception shapes your relationships and what happens when it clashes with someone else's? In Episode 93 of the Waking Up to Narcissism podcast, host Tony Overbay cracks open this intricate topic by differentiating between 'perception' and 'perspective.' Not just a play on words, these two concepts wield significant power over your emotional and relational health. Tony unpacks how recognizing this distinction can be a game-changer, especially when dealing with...
Published 10/25/23
Have you ever felt like someone is rewriting history, leaving you questioning your memory and sanity? What if there was a psychological explanation for this behavior? In today's episode, Tony revisits the concept of confabulation. Confabulation is a psychological mechanism where people create false memories or stories, often to fill gaps in their history or to avoid facing uncomfortable truths. We'll examine how this behavior is common among emotionally immature individuals and those with...
Published 10/16/23
Tony welcomes his daughter Mackie, host of "The Mind, the Mirror and Me" podcast, via this special bonus episode to talk about the important role that solitude can play in raising one's emotional baseline. Follow Mackie at https://www.instagram.com/beautybymackie/ (https://www.instagram.com/beautybymackie/) or Tony's new "Waking Up to Narcissism" Instagram account at https://www.instagram.com/wutnpod/ (https://www.instagram.com/wutnpod/) or his regular account at...
Published 10/06/23
In today’s episode of "Waking Up to Narcissism," Tony Overbay, LMFT, examines relationships affected by narcissism and emotional immaturity. A listener shares a story about their partner's over-the-top reactions, including a helicopter rescue on a hike. The conversation then shifts to characteristics of healthy relationships and the pitfalls of dealing with emotionally immature partners. Another listener's letter prompts a promise to dive deeper into the challenges faced when partnered with a...
Published 10/03/23
Forgive and forget. “Can’t we just let the past be in the past and move forward?” To someone who has been in a relationship with a narcissist or an extremely emotionally immature person, these concepts can have a negative impact, adding additional layers of guilt and shame to a situation already heavy with “what’s wrong with me?” messages. Today, Tony covers the contrasting concepts of 'acceptance' and 'forgiveness.' Explore why the nuanced understanding of acceptance, as outlined in...
Published 09/25/23
Tony explores the Dunning-Kruger effect—a cognitive bias where individuals misjudge their abilities—and its interplay with emotional immaturity and narcissism. Starting with a humorous take on a narcissist, an emotionally immature person, and a "nice guy" in a bar, Tony delves into the complex landscape of self-awareness and interpersonal dynamics. Through the lens of real-life workplace examples and the evocative "Man in a Hole" metaphor, the episode underscores the importance of recognizing...
Published 09/14/23
In this episode, we delve deep into understanding what it truly means to be differentiated, especially when navigating relationships with emotionally immature or narcissistic individuals. Through the lens of Amelia's personal journey with Mark, we unravel the subtle nuances of emotional manipulation and the transformative power of self-awareness. Drawing parallels with the differentiation concept, we explore how emotions and rationale are the yin and yang of our psyche, each holding its...
Published 09/06/23
In this bonus episode of the "Waking Up to Narcissism Premium Q&A Podcast," host Tony Overbay, LMFT (host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast), dives deep into the core differences between narcissism and emotional immaturity. Sparked by a heartfelt letter from a listener, Tony breaks down the rare instances of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and contrasts it with the more common issue of emotional immaturity. He elaborates on the diagnostic criteria for NPD, the...
Published 08/30/23
In episode 85 of "Waking Up to Narcissism," host Tony Overbay, LMFT, dives deep into the complexities of relationships entangled with narcissistic traits. The journey begins with a relatable tale about a personalized gift basket, highlighting the significance of emotional connection, safety, and understanding in partnerships. Tony frames a healthy interaction between his wife and him through his Four Pillars of a Connected Conversation, emphasizing the essence of curiosity, good intentions,...
Published 08/23/23
Tony answers a listener's question about the uncertainty of coming out of a controlling relationship and suddenly recognizing you can be anything you want to be and not knowing where to begin. He then takes on the concept of a “Bridge Partner.” Finding your way through life's relational complexities often introduces us to pivotal figures who can be considered "bridge partners." These unique individuals act as connectors, helping us transition from one emotional or relational state to another....
Published 08/14/23
In the enlightening fifth installment of "Death by a Thousand Cuts," we delve deep into the nuanced world of relationships marred by emotional immaturity and narcissistic behaviors. A dedicated listener, Emma bravely shares her journey of being trapped in a cycle of constantly appeasing her partner, losing touch with her own needs, and struggling with self-worth. Alongside her story, the episode unpacks numerous anecdotes from our listeners. These tales underscore the often-overlooked...
Published 08/07/23
In the latest episode of "Waking Up to Narcissism," Tony Overbay, LMFT, delves into the complexities of building emotional resilience, a key to overcoming past trauma and wounds that may go back to childhood. Contrary to popular belief, changing habits takes time but requires consistent and intentional effort over an extended period. The conversation turns to the importance of emotional intelligence and understanding its role in how we react or respond in situations, especially in...
Published 07/25/23
Today we delve into the challenging topic of coercive control and how it shows up in emotionally immature and narcissistic relationships. We explore the fundamental contradiction of control and love, showing how genuine affection and dominance cannot coexist harmoniously. Coercive control is a powerful, often invisible manipulation tool employed by abusers to entrap their victims. This episode also features a mix of light-hearted elements, including a thought-provoking haiku, riddle,...
Published 07/18/23
In today's episode, we delve into the captivating journey of Alex, a compassionate individual entangled in an emotionally manipulative relationship. This narrative vividly depicts his path from self-neglect and pleasing others to asserting his needs and reclaiming his identity. It demonstrates the brave decision to break free from toxicity and embark on a path to self-care, emphasizing the value of boundaries, self-love, and therapy. Listeners will learn about the implications of inconsistent...
Published 07/07/23
In today’s episode, Tony delves into the complexities of working with emotionally immature or narcissistic individuals in couples therapy. He explains the challenges therapists face in discerning genuine commitment to change from manipulative behavior, as these individuals can initially come across as charming and convincing. Tony emphasizes the importance of recognizing patterns such as lying, minimizing behavior, love bombing, and maintaining control. He acknowledges that therapists may...
Published 06/30/23
In today’s episode, Tony delves deep into the hidden mechanisms that fuel toxic relationships. He uncovers the secret life of intermittent reinforcement, how it creates the “trauma bond,” and its powerful influence in addictive and toxic relationships, especially those involving narcissists or emotionally immature individuals. Pulling from the roots of B.F. Skinner's theories on operant conditioning and behaviorism, we'll journey through the ways in which behavior can be conditioned,...
Published 06/20/23