Core Insights host Audrey Dias asks Michael Bradshaw, Professor of Global Energy, and Joan MacNaughton, Trustee of The Climate Group and an Executive Chair at the World Energy Council, if the world is building back greener as it recovers from the pandemic. Many governments have laid out plans to reach net zero by 2050 following the pandemic, but is this really happening or is it, as Greta Thunberg says, "all blah, blah, blah..."? For more on this topic read Professor Bradshaw's article Will there be a green recovery from the pandemic?