In this episode of Ways & Means: the hidden role that climate plays in the story of migration. How a changing climate is driving thousands of people to enter the U.S. each year. And how relatively small, inexpensive changes on the ground could make a difference with a daunting geopolitical problem. This is the seventh episode in our “Climate Change Solutions” series, where we look at research-based ideas to help cool a rapidly heating planet. Guests: Sarah Bermeo is a political economist and associate professor of public policy and political science in the Sanford School at Duke University. She directs Duke’s Program on Climate-Related Migration. Abrahm Lustgarten is a ProPublica reporter. His new book, On The Move,The Overheating Earth and the Uprooting of America, explores the connection between climate change, American lives and migration. Pedro Santos is a Honduran farmer. Also: voices of migrants from Guatemala Season 8 of Ways & Means is made possible thanks to support from the Office of the Provost at Duke University. Find out more about the Duke Climate Commitment.