One of the few people in my life who was a great boss to me was Kate Lye. One of the reasons I truly love Kate, and this will sound a bit odd, is her intolerance. Intolerance not of people so much, but of shonky, flabby thinking. She has an ability to stick a finger at the kind of weak thinking that often shows up in the world of leadership and resilience and whatever else and saying, "Well that's not really good enough is it? Somebody's just made that up." That quest for rigor in thinking is something that I try and hold onto myself and I see all the time in Kate.  Kate is a leadership specialist based in London and who works with clients worldwide. For over 20 years, ever since I’ve known her, she has been fascinated by how deep change happens for both individuals and organizations. And her work with CEOs and executive teams is focused on equipping them to hardwire tough changes and be clear-sighted about what or who gets in the way. She is a confidant and a coach to many leaders as they transform their businesses.  In our conversation, we sweep aside the platitudes and empty generalities that plague any discussion about resilience, and uncover the process by which we need to construct our own, personalized, RMO: Resilience Modus Operandi.  You can meet Kate at www.KLIconsult.com or on LinkedIn to say hello. This show is brought to you by The Advice Trap, Michael Bungay Stanier’s latest book. You can access a wide range of tools to help #TameYourAdviceMonster at www.TheAdviceTrap.com If you’d like to spend more time with Michael and people he admires, sign up for The Year of Living Brilliantly. 52 teachers over 52 weeks, each teaching one brilliant insight. Absolutely free.