Stay in touch and sign up for Paco’s weekly email newsletter, The Nerdletter.  In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco de Leon is joined by financial therapist Amanda Clayman to explore the intricate relationship between emotions and money. They dive into personal struggles with perfectionism and shame in financial management, and find solace in shared experiences. Amanda discusses her work with creative professionals facing financial unpredictability, reflects on financial nihilism and its societal impact, and the shifting narratives of financial agency and societal progress. Join Paco and Amanda as they candidly unpack the layers of our financial identities and histories. Amanda Clayman (@amandaclayman) is a clinician, coach, and speaker specializing in money issues. Amanda entered the mental health field with a unique focus: the role of money in people's lives. Her journey into this niche began in her twenties when she noticed how deeply emotional her relationship with money was. Financial challenges she faced were more about underlying emotional wounds than mere poor financial decisions. As she delved into therapy for herself, she realized that simply understanding these emotional roots wasn't enough to change her behavior; it required dedicated focus and effort.Determined to transform these insights into healthier financial behaviors, Amanda questioned why this intersection of finance and emotional health wasn't more widely addressed. This sparked a passion within her to help others navigate the same path. She found herself compelled to continuously explore and work in this area, aiming to illuminate the connection between money and emotional well-being for her clients, much like the metaphorical bridges she jokes about burning—illuminating the way for others. Amanda’s new podcast, Emotional Investment is availabe on Audible.  The theme music was written and performed by Andrew Parker, Jenna Parker, and Paco de Leon. If you’d like to contact us about the show or ask Paco a question about finances, email us at weirdfinancepod (at) gmail.com or submit your questions here. We’d also love your listener feedback about the show; here’s a short survey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices