Rachel Bilson and Melinda Clarke are joined by Johnny Messner who played our favorite villainous porn producer, Lance Baldwin, to discuss season 2, episode 17, “The Brothers Grimm.” Hear about how Johnny and Melinda both got their acting starts in soap operas. Johnny also discusses his experience with Ayahuasca, how it changed his life for the better, and his newfound love for acting and producing. Rachel talks about an iconic scene from this episode that she could not stop laughing at.  The Brothers Grimm synopsis: Ryan’s brother, Trey, gets out of jail and calls him to reconnect. The Cohens give Trey a warm welcome and Ryan grows concerned that nothing good can come from it. Zach returns from Italy happy, refreshed, and has a new girlfriend which makes Summer curious and Seth confused about what to think. Julie tells Kirsten about her erotica tape and the blackmail scheme from Lance, Kirsten urges her to speak to Caleb about it. Caleb agrees to help but has ulterior motives. The Newport Living Magazine officially launches, but to Julie’s surprise, Lance makes an appearance after the deal with Caleb goes sour.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices