It's episode 4! We could not get enough of our conversation with Dr. Thando Shabangu, who works as a post-doctoral research fellow with Dr. Lihle Qulu at Stellenbosch University. On part one of a three-part series, we discuss the appreciation of teachers, the challenges and joys of studying abroad, and how late introductions to the lab space invited Thando to the world of molecular biology research. Importantly, we also speak about mental health and the jumbled feelings that come with postgraduate learning. The episode ends with a tease for part two, where Thando offers us a glimpse of his work with Dr. Lihle Qulu on being brave enough to investigate male sexual aggression.