Greg interviews Nathan Barry, founder of ConvertKit, which makes email, automation, and monetization tools for creators.   They talk about how to be interesting online, and different ways to monetize online content.   ►►Subscribe to Greg's weekly newsletter for insights on community,  creators and commerce. You'll also find out when new and exclusive  episodes come out from Where it Happens. And it's totally free.    https://latecheckoutstudio.ck.page/  FIND ME ON SOCIAL:  Twitter: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg  Instagram: https://instagram.com/gregisenberg/  TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@gregisenberga    LINKS FOR THIS EPISODE:  Production Team:  https://PodFlow.comNathan Baryhttps://twitter.com/nathanbarryhttps://ConvertKit.comhttp://nathanbarry.com  SHOW NOTES:  00:45 How to be interesting online 02:30 Combining education and entertainment 04:00 Storytelling for mundane stories 06:00 Improving comedy/storytelling skills 15:00 Video content spreads well 17:15 Studying comedy 19:30 Blending journeys and storytelling 21:45 Hiring out comedians 24:15 Learning monetization skills 27:00 Considering scalable business models 29:15 Running companies long-term 31:15 Building "skyscraper" products 34:00 Blending agencies and software