In this episode of Woke Pedagogies we continue the conversation on teaching race while white with Shannon Winnubst, Professor and Chair in the Department of Women’s and Gender Studies. Shannon joins us and further explores approaches to acknowledging how the ongoing social tensions present in society are already part of our classrooms and ways we can ‘lower the temperature’ on these issues to create spaces for productive conversations. She offers what she has learned around creating spaces for students to engage the complexities of racial hierarchies and inequalities while understanding how whiteness, including her own whiteness informs these discussions.