Adam, Cathy, Ianara (Imachinate), and our guest Devin Pigman—a former moderator with our friends at the Writing Cartel Discord Server—talk about magic systems. We discuss a few of our favorite systems, things we've learned from creating our own, as well as some best practices for creating your own kinds of magic! Plus, along with the hard and soft magic scale, Cathy hypothesizes a second axis that we might want to begin considering when discussing magic systems... This episode was edited by J.D. Venner.