Carmen Marcus joins Yvonne to explore how she used the technique of rhythm and language in her novel How Saints Die. The story is seen through the eyes of ten year old Ellie and Marcus - both a novelist and a poet - explains how the use of particular words, sounds and silences helps to create a relationship between the reader and character. Write Your Novel is an innovative write-along podcast series - written and devised by Dr Yvonne Battle-Felton. A writing exercise at the end of each conversation supports the listener to help them proactively work through the techniques in their own work. A transcript for this episode is available here: https://newwritingnorth.com/projects/write-your-novel/ Presenter: Yvonne Battle-Felton Producer: Candace Wilson Music: Joe Gardner A Sonderbug Production funded by Arts Council England and supported by New Writing North.