Jeremy is joined this week by author, activist, and poet Mark Green to talk about his new book Round We Dance. Jeremy and Mark talk about the need for a book on how to do rituals, why ritual is so important to the human psyche, and how to approach ritual outside of an organized religious setting. It’s a wide-ranging chat that covers a lot, and the book is a wonderful resource on how to approach meaning-making rituals in a practical way. To learn more about Mark, you can check out his blog about Atheopaganism, get his previous book Atheopaganism: An Earth Honoring Path Rooted in Science, or check out the Suntree Retreat coming up this fall (where Jeremy will also be a speaker). Mark is also a co-host of The Wonder podcast about science-based paganism. Jeremy has all his practice info at Wellness with Jer, and you can find him on Instagram and YouTube. Head over to Patreon to support the show, or you can pick up some merch! We appreciate support from likes, follows, and shares as well! ----- Podcasts about therapy do not replace actual therapy, and listening to a podcast about therapy does not signify a therapeutic relationship. If you or someone you know is in crisis please call or text the nationwide crisis line at 988, or text HELLO to 741741. The Trevor Project has a crisis line for LGBTQ+ young people that can be reached by texting 678678.