What happens when you reach the pinnacle of your sport behind two of the best swimmers of all time? Jason Cram lived in the shadow of greats such as Ian Thorpe and Grant Hackett and left the sport thinking he had never achieved anything. He drifted into retirement with no real idea of what he would do next.  But while setting up surf life saving events, managing Disney Cruises and working on James Packer's yacht (just google Mariah Carey jetski guy), Jason discovered that life has chapters, and that swimming was just one of them.  There are so many unexpected twists and turns in this conversation, and I was left with the feeling that there really is so much life to experience after sport.  Enjoy!    You can find Jason’s business, Swimly, at www.swimly.com.au and @goswimly Lifeline: 13 11 14 Contact [email protected] for sponsorship opportunities.  Host: Libby Trickett Instagram: @allthatglitterspod Produced by: Strozkiy Media (@strozkiymedia) www.strozkiymedia.com  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.