With an on-going interest in analyzing the online spaces that trans people occupy today, Carmen talks with the creator of one of her favorite meme pages @progesterone.barbie, Callie Williams. Callie is a writer, meme philosopher, and trans woman based out of Austin, Texas. Topics include: Trans discourse through memes, Sock vs Gock wars, legislative attacks on gender affirming care for transsexuals, Hunter Schaffer's exclamation points, Trans misogyny in gender expansive and trans spaces, online identity politics, online cancel culture, chronically online culture, tenderqueer behavior & how we can move forward. For more from Carmen and Beauty Translated, visit @thecarmenlaurent & @beautytranslatedpod! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.