If you’ve never met Shannon Lee Simmons before, hold onto your hat, because there’s no one else like her. Founder of The New School of Finance, and author of the book Worry Free Money, Shannon joins Sandi and Chris to talk about how her family talked about money growing up, what the birds and the bees have to do with spending decisions, and why that Ikea Story had to open the book. You - for real - do not want to miss this. 2:15 - How did Shannon grow up talking about money 10:13 - How to tell your friends you don’t want to spend $80 on dinner 14:24 - The words that matter in finance - safe and happy 20:40 - How to build habits of self reflection 32:15 - Curing the problem of financial struggle… instead of just treating it 35:10 - Professional vulnerability… how to be an expert while baring your soul. 42:31 - Letting go of past mistakes