Have you heard of the gut center in the enneagram? Do you have anyone in your life that is part of the enneagram 8, 9, and 1 numbers? Can learning more about these numbers deepen your relationships and understanding of these people in your life? In this podcast episode, Billy and Brandy Eldridge speak with Jackie Coban about the Gut Center: Enneagram Numbers 8, 9, and 1. Meet Jackie Coban Jackie is a triple-certified coach in Life Coaching, Enneagram Coaching, and Neurolinguistic Programming. She is the founder of Table For 9 Coaching and the host of the Table for 9 podcast. She is a quick-witted, passionate, fire-cracker woman whose personal philosophy is that it IS possible to see people win in life, love, and work. Jackie is a coach who works with various individuals and groups to help them embrace who they are and what they bring to the table, no pun intended. She is well-balanced in where she has worked: law offices, anti-sex trafficking movements, the non-profit sector, human resources, finance, and the like. She had one thing in common in all places: the pull to “make it work” for everyone. After leading 5+ teams simultaneously at a non-profit organization, she realized what everyone brought to the table was truly different and equally valuable, and she wanted other people to see it, too. Visit Jackie’s website and connect on Instagram. Listen to her podcast here. In This Podcast Summary * Gut center * Type 8: The Challengers * Type 9: The Peacemaker * Type 1: The Perfectionist Gut center People part of the gut center of intelligence draw on their own physical awareness and instinctual impulses. For the gut center, they struggle with anger and they desire justice. Type 8: The Challengers They are also nicknamed the ‘Dragons’ because they are very forward and direct in all the best ways possible. They’re tough and build trust in relationships through conflict. * Type 8’s are strong and tough, but they are determined to come off that way, which could also translate into that they are determined not to come off as weak. * If you have some Type 8’s in your life, it is good to consider ‘am I intimidated or are they intimidating me?’ when you interact with them to give you a deeper dive into the big energy situation. This is because they may act like bullies but in fact, they will do anything to protect those around them and they despise those who capitalize on other people’s weakness. * For Type 8’s, they live by the saying: the best defense is a good offense. However, they all have an inner child they also protect. Type 8’s may have felt that they had to grow up too quickly and so, therefore, cling to a piece of their childhood into adulthood. If you are friends with or in a relationship with a Type 8, know that they are not looking to fight with you but they want to see if you will stay in the fight alongside them.  For Type 8’s, do not assume everyone is out to get you, you can open up a little bit. Type 8’s repress their heart center, and that lack of vulnerability is what hides their perceived ‘lack’ of weakness. * Type 8’s motivation and tough love can be an incredible motivating factor for people around them. They push those they love to challenge themselves and go head-on into what they want. Type 9: The Peacemaker Also known as the Referee, they are highly gifted at seeing things from all sides although they can be stubborn. They like peace, harmony, and stability. Recognizing and admitting their needs,