Whose idea was the patriarchy? How long has it been a part of our lives? And how do we even define it? For something that's so prevalent in most of our lives, it can sometimes feel like there's an inevitability to it. However, there are so many examples of alternatives, and surprising reasons to its origins. Exploring all of this with Kate today is Angela Saini, author of The Patriarchs: How Men Came To Rule. This episode was edited by Tom Delargy and produced by Stuart Beckwith. The senior producer was Charlotte Long. Voting is open for the Listener's Choice Award at the British Podcast Awards, so if you enjoy what we're doing, we'd love it if you took a quick follow this link and click on Betwixt the Sheets: https://www.britishpodcastawards.com/voting Enjoy unlimited access to award-winning original documentaries that are released weekly and AD-FREE podcasts. Get a subscription for £1 per month for 3 months with code BETWIXT sign up at https://www.historyhit.com/subscription/ You can take part in our listener survey here.